Ego Death Podcast - Episode Two

Ego Death Podcast - Episode Two

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Hey there!

We just wrapped up a very special(?) episode of the Ego Death Podcast brought to by and for the commentariat of the @anarchistnews@a.nti.social comments section.

https://archive.org/details/ego-death-episode-2

That’s right, through the magic of the internet so many folks chimed in on the thread about episode one that we felt compelled to put our noses to the proverbial grindstone and produce a quick and dirty conversation on anarchist justice, conflict and reformed (supposedly) troll and half of team Ego Death, Zach. This means that you have Lumpy, Sir Einzige, and all your beautiful anon (not verified) selves to thank for this conversation.

I’d like to personally thank you all for teaching me more about Zack and especially the amazing meme work. Whichever anon made that happen, I salute you.

Given the sensitivity of the subject, there was some emotion involved, and I hope we kept it light but also did the topic Justice (get it?). We managed to cover the trolling fiasco the milieu can’t seem to get enough of, justice, conflict resolution, and just plain old being nice. We also somehow managed to tie in Yang Chu, Foucault, Serres, Bataille, Montaigne,an old NPR podcast, AND a fun Buddhist parable about a murderous berserker. If you don’t have time to listen, moral of the story: Don’t be a dick.

Thanks for listening, and as always reach out with any questions, comments, and ideas here or hit me up at @ruin or Zack (if you dare) @zack over on the @ni.hil.ist instance and check @EgoDeathPodcast to keep up with whatever goodness we have in store.

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Hello ruin, I am completely deaf. Do you have a transcript of your podcast available?

Thanks for asking. We don’t yet, but it’s in the works. The plan is to get some more episodes recorded and then handle getting it up on the normal podcast places with normal podcast features (including transcripts). If we get transcripts earlier I’ll be sure to share them here.

Just to be clear, I’ve seen a couple comments deleted mentioning ableism. The lack of consideration re transcripts is my bad. This was a very spontaneous project and I could’ve been more considerate of everyone wanting to engage with it, but instead we went with the quickest easiest route to get things done. No excuses from me, and I appreciate those folks who brought it to my attention.

Hi Ted K Archive,

Thanks for the tip! I’ll pass this along. I’m not handling any of the technical stuff. I think it’s already being worked on, but maybe this is a better solution.

Hi again TKA,

Accidentally deleted part before sending. Why I’m not the tech guy.

Thanks for the transcripts. Super helpful and very kind of you.

I'm not that interested in "justice", personally. Slippery word, rarely use it seriously.
Consequences, however, are just a thing.

Why is this weird to bring up wherever and however we like? As opposed to what? What's not anarchist about blasting away cuz fuck you, eat shit. Bonus, it's your own! years old shit!

EAT IT. People wanna watch. Such good content.

The inference here seems to be that because time passes and the person who behaved as they did, would prefer we dont discuss it, therefore, we shouldn't? Or "it's weird"?

You're just describing discomfort trollbros. Troll buyer's remorse. Discomfort is a consequence. A relatively benign one at that! Could be worse.

You didnt even mention any of the allegations at all ... never even used the word misogyny or ... anything relating directly to the behaviours that people took issue with?

As for hypocracy, I didnt threaten you zach, I implied that your conduct over time, had bulldozed over the line where I might later entertain notions of you needing to grow as a person, which you apparently have!

You're still a blowhard little dickhead who barely owns their shit, while complaining about how everyone was mean to you. But older and wiser and better at rationalizing! So that's growth trollbro, good on ya!

Also, everything is content and clout amirite?!
Theres no "giant angry mob", just a few people who ain't stupid and remember ... Why make it complicated? It's simple.

Lmfao I guess whenever you piss people off, it's because they're a "mini-state".

Amazing. But you're totally sorry tho. And we're still mad but you're not. None of this is a big deal obviously. Also Haiti and dungeon cheese or whatever.

"WhY iS EveRyOne so MAD?!"

Specifically said I dont give a shit about any of this except that it's funny. I'm just bored at work right now!

Anyway, great podcast trollbros! Too much fun!
But like ... you're pretty terrible people tho? Objectively... Ew! Just ew.

Hi Lumpy,

I won’t speak for Zack, just myself. This podcast wasn’t meant to be a trolling endeavor and I never intended to engage specifically with anarchists or even considered the milieu or clout. I hadn’t planned on even posting it here until I was asked to be a guest on the anews podcast the same week Zack and I recorded our first episode. Given how much I enjoyed my conversation with max, I succumbed to some urging from friends and posted Episode One here.

Going forward we’ll be back to the initial plan of recording conversations we find enjoyable and interesting on a variety of topics and featuring guests that often won’t be in agreement with our perspectives. We won’t be debating them or arguing about what is/isn’t anarchist enough, we’ll be talking like people that like each other and have a shared interest in how one’s perspective shapes their world and views.

Probably not your thing and that’s fine too.

Take care

Did he even tell you what he actually did?

Srsly ... have fun with your "friend". Hope he's in therapy for your sake.

This.

He's delusional af. Poor bullied, Z.

There are logs and photos and recordings of all of this but whatever.

He’s told me quite a bit, but I’m ok with knowing that no one has to tell me everything, and it’s on me whether or not to accept that. That’s kind of the price of entry if I want to have any type of relationship with anyone. I think I’ll be ok but I appreciate your concern.

Moderators: This is not the actual plate of anyone involved because he is incompetent at stalking. There is no reason to delete this public photo directly addressing Ruin's request and comment.

Ruin, you asked for embarrassing pictures, well here's one of how your friend likes to intimidate women and their children after stalking and threatening to kill and r*pe them.
https://anokchan.org/index.php?q=/post/view/494

You should ask his ex about him. Search her Twitter for more on your good friend ;-)

The date on the registration sticker of the car in the clearly altered photo is from before the aplanet
IRC even started. It's from before the date this picture was uploaded to anokchan, too. Given that, plus the fact it's also apparently being posted without the permission of the person depicted, I really don't think this is helping your case, Paw Patrol

Thanks for playing. But Zack uploaded this image with the caption "soon" to try and intimidate a woman that he had previously threatened to r*pe who he believed was in the state of PA. I'm not in the USA so I'm not sure how dates work there but I think you're wrong about the tags being altered. The incident occurred in 2017 in the IRC. The date on the anokchan server should not be trusted since it's held together with dental floss and duct tape and was probably reuploaded or rebuilt/reindexed. It wasn't uploaded in 2019.
Try again, Sherlock.

Actually I don't know if it was 2017 or 2019. Maybe it was 2019? I'm a being beyond time. Either way how were the tags altered? what's the gotcha, Sherlock? Do you like to rush to the defense of people when they do awful things?

If it's so awful, you'd think the person victimized would find a more capable representative to defend them on anonymous internet comment sections

"capable representative"
"defend them"

Uh, sir (let's pretend you're not Zack), this is an anarchist website. Do you know nothing of anarchists and representation? Either way, if Zack uploaded an old selfie or found a car with expired tags in his intimidation attempt, the laziness is on him and is irrelevant.

You should see the threatening selfies Zack uploaded of himself sitting in the passenger seat of him mom's nice car, outside a Brooklyn anarchist social center he was too afraid to enter, in an attempt to intimidate two people he believed lived there.

Or the time he wanted to fight so he dropped a pin on his mom's house. Or was it the house his parents bought him? I can't remember because it's that unimportant to me. But the internet remembers. The internet is forever.

The laughs are endless really. It's good he's so clearly grown up and moved on like so much Taoist water flowing through the Niger Delta.

Hi anon,

Only responding to let you know “Taoist water flowing through the Niger Delta” is fucking comedic gold. This is the quality of humor others should aspire to. (10/10)

Ruin, do you really think Aragorn! and Bellamy have a "justice mindset" or were you being glib? Have you actually ever engaged with their body of work?

Thanks for listening and fair question. I was somewhat being glib in that I wasn’t addressing their respective bodies of work, and I could have made the point more tactfully.

I haven’t read much from A! aside from a few of their popular texts around indigeneity/anarchism. I’m not what I’d call a fan and their way of viewing culture feels essentialist to me. I won’t say that I have any strong opinion on him though.

I’ve read quite a bit of BF’s stuff and really enjoyed corrosive consciousness as a work of critique. Invitation to desertion struck me as a strong text, but felt prescriptive in the end in a way I’m not as fond of.

When I made the admittedly glib comment, I had just listened to the Brilliant episode that was linked. Both of them take a position of superiority in regards to their perspectives and reasoning vs others (judgment) and rarely hold back in demeaning those who may disagree (punishment) with the result of delegitimizing the opposing perspective to uphold their version of truth (justice).

Less words, I don’t like the Brilliant and I think they’re both smart people who exact their justice on the poor misguided wretches who dare to hold a different perspective. I’m just not into that.

I was glib. Probably won’t be the last time.

And do you ever allow for some arguments to be stronger than others? Or is everything always a soupy mess of relativistic plurality?

Hi Lumpy,

I certainly do, but I have very little interest or emotional investment in convincing others to agree with me. Many situations it’s easy to let someone win an argument and yet still arrive at the desired outcome.

oh I see! as for me, i don't really view them as competitions with a winner and loser at all, perhaps i never drank enough egoist nihilist koolaid?

in fact! where's the argument here? there's your shitheaded friend and the stuff he definitely did and sort of acknowledges but then finishes up with a smarmy double down. what argument? there isn't one.

Hi Lumpy,

My apologies if I read something into your comment that wasn’t there. I took the “some arguments to be stronger than others” to speak to a comparison of strength between them and I didn’t think competition was a stretch.

I could have probably answered more clearly by stating that yes, I see everything as a “soupy mess of relativistic plurality”, and also yes, I see some arguments as stronger than others. However, I see my determination of strength as coming from my preference, not anything inherently stronger in the argument itself.

Also, call me a nihilist, but egoist? Yuck. Not my preference.

I hope that clears things up. I don’t think we’d be in agreement on a lot of things, but I also hope it’s clear that I’m putting in some amount of effort in answering everyone here to the best of my ability and trying to avoid confusion.

Was there an additional more specific “argument” you were trying to address that I missed?

Thanks again.

I really just wanted to apologize for treating your best pal Z like a total dickhead for years. For sure he's a dickhead but it's no reason for hate him as such... we all have so much time in life to get over our personal ills, starting with admitting them.

Again, I'm sorry, bro! Also like you I'm an anticiv theorist and activist and looking forward to do things with you! Can you support me? PLEASE!

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Paypal: blackandgreen

Hi anon,

This is a pretty good one. I admitted to enjoying the KT style jokes and it’s topically relevant. (7/10)

nope! nothing you've missed. i'm also a nihilist of sorts. have fun podcasting with your friends!

"go fix it with that person and it's ok" ~ruin

Sounds like a justice mindset.

Hello! That was quite the quick turn around from episode #one to this and before the Anarchist News dot org (ANews) comments take hold and sway some thoughts to here or there, I will leave this comment.

Just finished listening to the entire podcast and I will try to cover some ideas discussed in chronological order. First a little background for those not keeping track – episode #1 of this podcast was posted earlier this week and a few anonymous and some (not verified, non-registered users) left comments as well. This is how ANews and the IRC have always been, no logs and no registration needed to partake in anarchist discourse.

Let’s start with Anokchan. According to my understanding, Z is actually the one who posted the “meme” originally shared in the first Ego Death podcast ANews thread. It’s impossible to tell, but what isn’t impossible to tell is that this image, at least was originally shared with someone on the IRC by them. That image has been there for years and Z originally did know about it – especially because after it was posted more photos were shared there, perhaps by Z. These were photos of them visiting locations where they knew the people they haunted inhabited or passed through once upon a time.

If you reach out to Anokchan, I’m sure they would be happy to take down your selfies, years later after you posted them there (and forgot?). No one is trying to be a cop here, but pretending like you didn’t post the images of yourself is a bit absurd. The original ANews image here was the meme mentioned at the start of this podcast, but was changed in good taste, because again no one is interested in cancel culture or making your life terrible, even though it was a quality text overlay from shite you said in chat some years back.

Moving on, it’s mentioned that ANews is a weird place to hold people accountable because of the comments made there by anonymous. I find the statement weird because at this point it has become a myth that ANews comments are all terrible and there can be no good, so mentioning this before automatically disproves everything. For sure, some ANews comments are bad, some are funny, and there are many a gem that will never be mentioned by anyone, but only read by anonymous. It’s a bad critique, totally lacking in sustenance and value.

The background on the IRC is partly – yeah -, peoples feeling got hurt - like as in realizing how terrible society can be to each other over a computer screen. So many things that individuals would never say to each other face to face and a invitation to trolls who don’t care or have any idea of IRC etiquette, especially in an anarchist chat. In my humble opinion, the face-off started between Z and someone totally outside of Anarchy Planet projects, an anonymous IRC user that was also especially terrible to everyone. I’m glad you are accepting responsibility Z, growing from this, and talking about what happened without mentioning names or stuff like that, plus inviting those involved to come chat with you or “come through.” Although, to be honest – I don’t think anyone ever wanted to come through – it was only you and perhaps anonymous ANews commentator.

I’m kind of surprised the emphasis you all put on A! in this conflict, because it was not them at all. Although, as explained by Z in podcast, the ideas of A! were a problem to them, which in turn made them associate A! with it all. Yes, there are some good soundbites of Z calling into Anarchy Bang and yelling about “Niger Delta Mfers!” At this point, one might ask themselves if this is not a story of growing up terminally online? Later on in the podcast, A! the hosts attempt to classify A! within a philosophy which just seems totally wrong and something I would bleep out if I was hosting this show over the radio. They go on to talk about value statements “made” on The Brilliant podcast without realizing that they are making value statements about it all. Later on in the podcast, it’s mentioned how much hypocrisy upsets them (same here). The beefs? These people who had the beefs are not here. They are not leaving comments about this, but it is others who have just witnessed this, perhaps by something like a drive by.

Moving on to justice: banishment is mentioned. Why would online friends want to have someone around that has always been incredibly toxic? Step away from all that. It’s not banishment, but friends not wanting to participate with you because it’s not fun, but super stressful, upsetting, saddening, and fifty other terrible adjectives. The IRC chat was/is a fun place for talking about anarchist ideas.

-rocinante

Thanks for you important disposition and testimony. I for one am glad anarchist court is the one place where hearsay is admissible. Keep up tbe good fight, brother!

rocinante brings up good points, ruin, and rather than you responding with your becoming-trademarked "not unfair" comment that allows you to maintain whatever neutrality/perspective you are going for, you don't respond at all and z-as-anon does instead.

lots of red flags going on here, even for folks who are wishing him (and us all) the best in moving past the bullshit.

Hi anon,

I think I may have lost the thread of what you were trying to get across, but you are correct that I only ever intend to speak to my own perspective. That’s something I feel strongly about and isn’t likely to change. Even more so in a situation like this where the space and context is foreign to me. As others have suggested previously, I’m spending time here (anews comments sections) both to address what I feel I can, and to learn enough about the space to engage more in earnest.

I’ve already communicated with rocinante directly to this comment elsewhere. We’ve been engaging on fedi since before any of this discussion started and I’d describe our conversations as cordial and in good faith on a variety of topics. I’ve enjoyed them, personally, but I’ll let them speak for themselves on whether they feel the same.

Hi again ruin,
When you get over your ligma I hope you still find time for deez comments

Hi anon,

Docking a couple points because I’m old and not cool so I had to look up “ligma” in a pop culture dictionary, but a good effort nonetheless. (8/10)

that said, anews is one thing, elsewhere is elsewhere (lol). that is, if someone is speaking to you here, it's partly so that other people will see what they say... so in a thread where you're responding (very nicely) to many people but don't respond to one person, what people here see is that you aren't responding.

we all have to make our own decisions how much and when we're talking to everyone and when to an individual, but just sayin'...

Hi anon,

That’s a really good point and I appreciate you pointing it out. In hindsight a better way to handle it would’ve been to add a comment on rocinante’s thread (correct term?) so it was clear to everyone here I was addressing them, and not avoiding it. Thanks again.

Hi again anon,

Also wanted to add that I’m trying to address everyone that engages with me directly. If I don’t it’s because I see the comment very low effort or just looking to fight. As with all things I’ll reserve the right to make that call myself, and at the same time I think my willingness to engage directly should be at least somewhat obvious at this point.

Take care.

Nice of you to talk shit about the site where you're actually getting posi and thoughtful feedback, and where you were informed about this big part of z's past behavior that you didn't know about.

There are plenty of on-going jokes on anews that are actually funny. I personally think that the kevin tucker donation post is a riot, for example, but i can be simple like that.

A!'s use of the word troll was not simplistic. he totally appreciated troll behavior as an important part of challenging status quo.

Z doesn't seem to have learned much, which is a drag. however he sounded to you in your personal conversation, here he sounds defensive and evasive, and still pretty wrapped up in feeling bullied ("fuck the bolo"?! "the bay area is known to take advantage of young idealistic people"?! at least there some push back to the second statement, but doesn't speak well of his improved perspective.)

The question of whether people do/should get to just move past stupid shit they did when they were young is on new terrain since the internet doesn't forget. generations who are young these days are a transition group while folks scramble to figure out how this is part (or not) of a maturing process. no one fucking knows, it seems, at least atm.

"Everyone loves a pile on" - sure seems like you're not valuing the good faith comments that you're so careful to acknowledge on this site. You really simplify the responses you got.

It is hard to have a conversation on a site where a lot of people with different styles and levels of bitterness are all talking at/to you, but here you don't do a good job of distinguishing between them, which is disappointing. Perhaps a note for the future. I guess we'll see. Oh, nice comment at the end... . after an entire session of dissing the comments... lol

Hi anon,

Thanks for listening and the comment. You bring up some good points.

The last couple of days have gone a long way to change my view of the comments section. Some of the jokes still aren’t to my taste but the pos/neg comment ratio is way better than what I have seen in the past. Some of that is definitely on me. It’s always been my choice to not interact, so as they say, you get out what you put in and I put in little to nothing. That’s on me.

As to trolling, I’m not a connoisseur yet. I’m not sure I’ll ever get the taste, but maybe I could learn to appreciate the art form.

The online/real life “growing up” challenges, especially in respect to mistakes is a mess. I’m navigating those murky waters at the moment. I’m late to the online game (had to ask what IRC was), kinda old and I’ve got three teenagers so it’s something I’m trying to figure out daily. I will say I’ve really enjoyed the space over at ni.hil.ist so maybe I’m learning? I also recognize different folks have differing levels of emotional investment in online spaces so my views as someone with very little of these needs are different, and I can respect that.

I’ve been sick the past few days so put the time to good use in the comments section. I can’t promise that I’ll always be able to keep this pace, but I’ll at least try to address anything for me directly. I appreciate you pointing out my shit talking, and I can promise there will be more in the future, but I welcome being called out.

The past couple of days have been a pretty wild detour into a place I never gave much serious thought. While posi comments are nice, I’ve found it more informative and in some ways enjoyable to interact with commenters like you that are direct and honest but I wouldn’t say at all unfair.

Thanks again.

well, color me chagrined.

i stand by what i wrote before but now that it finally becomes clear to me just who zack is, ugh. just ugh. he definitely falls into the category of "makes noises about addressing harm, but is actually uninterested in dealing with their shit." and, yes i did listen to this podcast.

i mean,

how's this for an anarchist ethic– speak on what you know (if you must); keep what you don't out of your mouth, always.

Hi rabbit,

That’s a an ethic I’d have hard time following and I’d hope most people would as well. I learn a lot, both in the sense of abstract knowledge and interpersonally, by expressing things that I feel I “know” and then receiving feedback from others with a different conception of what this “known” is. Or in other words, I’d rather be open to being judged as wrong, than to be afraid of speaking. I may have lots of horrible opinions, but I feel I’m ok at taking criticism and I’m open to changing my opinions or acknowledging the possibility of a different perspective that I may find personally disagreeable.

really? this is where you go with that? i am not talking about figuring out shit with your friends in the privacy of your own space, obviously. i'm talking about statements presented as fact, in a public forum, about people & places you know next to nothing about.

Hi anon,

I didn’t go to school. Probably why I suck at podcasting;)

Ruin and Zack,

To help convince your listeners you know what you're talking about regarding old masters and their teachings (even when you clearly don't) here is a pronunciation tip: Yang is not pronounced like "bang!" The "an" sound is "ah" like in "Yahhoo" or "ah-ha".

再见

Hi Daoist,

Thanks for pointing out my error. I’ll try to use the correct pronunciation going forward. I’m admittedly lousy at pronunciation in general. I can’t say much to my lack of understanding of the teachings, I’ll keep engaging with the ideas.

I feel so much dumber for having listened to these two goons. I blame the Bay area anarchists for taking advantage of my idealism by promoting it.

If you also felt bullied into listening to this stupid shit make it known by supporting me at:

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Thanks!

Hi Kevin,

I do like the KT jokes, and this one’s pretty funny. The cashapp, etc really does it for me.

Will the other, offended party stand up and speak their views on this?

Since I used to be part of these "20 IRC people" who came down on Z, jumping in defense of a lady I didn't really know, only met once in some crazy one-hour talk that felt more like some corporate promo event, it's kinda interesting to have some *apparent* closure (?) to this conflict. But that was like 4 years back and a lot of shit happened in my life since then. Mostly bad shit as usual, but a bit of awesome shit. But since you don't give a fuck I won't tell you more.

So I can't behave like got any personal stake in that fight... and this also sounds rather pathetic to me. The stuff also happened far outside my actual geographically-defined "milieu", if there's one... I should have learned to not get carried over in some online conflicts, like I did with that one, without having a clear picture of the situation and some personal IRL knowledge of those involved, and for this, I apologize to myself for having cared!

Does it mean that we'll also gunna be having a new podcast in response hosted by "Plast" and "Notnull", where the former will finally apologize for having been such an online asshole and also for their White racist and homophobic hate speech on the IRC during those same years? That'd be fun to hear!

As you can see, there's few people out there who can claim being all nice and clean, especially when their very view of honesty and authenticity is so deeply negative. And within anarcho-maoist circles these people amount to "0".. as these milieus anyways must be pretty dead by now.

What gives?

I love that this bro's response to Zack and Ruin's self imposed discussion on Zack's bad behavior focuses on what they believe was not not nice or clean behavior by two others. It's similar to Zack excusing his abusive acs by immediately saying he felt bullied because nobody was sympathetic to his breakup or that they were a mini-state for not centering his problems in their discussions.

If the mods did not detect the sarcasm in the comment they just deleted that made fun of this idiot thinking Plast is a 'white, racist homophobe', then they need to get out more.

Then second, this is the fucking internet? And what you assess as idiocy is really just about people not knowing each other f2f as much as you'd like to think... as you prolly didn't get that the world is much, much larger than your milieu?

So all we get from the someone we never met using racist and homophobic insults in an IRC chat is some unknown character doing just that. Which in the fucking context of the internet MOST LIKELY MEANS A CHUD, unless some Black gay person was just edgy/stupid enough to throw in this hate speech just coz "POWAH!" or something alike. But in this latter case, they gotta assume that everyone knows them as such... which doesn't work on a public IRC channel.

So yeah, regardless the cause behind it, it's pretty damn inexcusable to be posting hate speech on a so-called anarchist IRC and use a moderator's support in doing so. Such conduct is nowhere any better than that Z creep did, only not as stalky, but a way more deceptive and duplicitous. Aaaaaand you fucking suck ass for standing by such conduct.

Instead of conversation you are throwing out huge and inappropriate accusations of "hate speech" and comparing marginalized people talking as they choose to talk to the actions of a stalker and abuser. And now you're calling them out..

You were told on multiple occasions that the person whose "racist hate speech" was offending you was a queer black person and that you should probably refrain from telling queer black people what words they were allowed to use (as a non-queer non-black person yourself).

That the IRC had groups of friends talking together that made you feel excluded seems to be your issue.

Anarchy isn't a different set of rules to make you feel comfortable. Anarchy isn't bending to you personalized idea of what is appropriate "conduct".

Check your privilege and fuck off.

Ok, so first things first... there is still evidence that this online character I'm accusing -based on evidence that IRC regulars have all witnessed- is a marginalized person, more specifically a Black queer person.

I got no issues with any Black person using racial slur IRL, as it's not my skin tone or ethnic belonging, therefore judging on this would be indeed some weird form of White patronizing. Buuuuut, for the 487003th time, this is the internet, not f2f interactions. There is NO knowing who's behind the screen... just like there's little evidence you ain't just bullshitting, or being "hyperbolic".

"I was told several times..." when who what where? Even if that happened and I don't remember, who, again, are these people telling me, or more specifically what makes them reliable for such?

But, if what you say is all true, and I'm pathetically in the wrong here... then the whole Kanye debacle should have taught you already -unless you're just playing with me, here- that being part of a marginalized group is no fucking excuse for posting hate speech online. Not only this helps normalizing or making acceptable such conduct, for anybody claiming to be non-White and LGBTQ+. Which is not calling for someone like this person to be deplatformed, but just kept from conducting like this through anarchist online infrastructure. For those crybabying about "policing", well there's still 4chan and 8kun, you know. So fuck off back there yourself?

> "Check your privilege"... Yeah very funny, CHUD. You just gave away your sarcasm here.

zack, you're now relitigating your cringe IRC fights from many years ago...

go to the bathroom, look in the mirror, deep eye contact with self, say -

"I have psychological issues that I should seek help for. My behavior is quite strange."

I am not Zack. There is no way to "help" me... psychotherapists work with the police and the healthcare system is rotten to the core, and you know it. I flirt with collectives or milieus only because I want the basic things every healthy human being would. That people defending htis "Plast" character call me with ABLEIST insults while trying to sound like a SJW won't work too well as a card against me, as it only makes you further look like the ridiculous glowies you really are.

Regardless, Zack is still a creepo and he can eat shit straight from Ruin's asshole as much as he likes.

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