ANARCHY RADIO 12-26-2023

ANARCHY RADIO 12-26-2023

(w/ John Zerzan)

Gaza bludgeoned and starved, no functioning hospitals. Crazed global weather. Online slander. From microplastics to nanoplastics. Deaths due to smartphones. Homelessness, "Deaths from despair" thesis. All of us Strangers. JVL Rewilding book now available. Ellul discussion. "How Else Is It Possible" poem. Action briefs. One call.

https://archive.org/details/anarchy-radio-12-26-2023

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to john zerzan:
long-time listener here. you seem to be really off your game as of late. in particular: your basically progressive perspectives on covid, vaccines, terfs, and trans activists, as opposed to an anitcivilization one. your obviously ideological takes on anews, ITS, anonymous posts, corrosive consciousness, kevin tucker, and gaza, as opposed to an anarchist one. your uncritical promotion of projects like tinderbox, anarchist book fairs, reformist and leftist actions, and other fellow primitivists, as opposed to a rigorously critical one. not to mention your delusional dreams that something like the 1960s could happen in this technologically entangled, almost exclusively alienated, and hyper-domesticated mess. your professed positions seem a bit suspect and inconsistent with your general anticivilization critique. you have a lot of important things to say of great value in some very significant and specific regards, but stay in your lane or shut the fuck up. maybe its time to wrap it up? Its hard to tell the difference sometimes between you and a run-of-the-mill green liberal. I have not picked up your new book yet, but based on the title and some initial reviews, i fear you are just another domesticated human hoping to convince people of an ideology to get them out of this colossal dead end called civilization. there is no ideas to get them out, only escape by those few who can see it and are not afraid to live outside. as far as attack, well, sure, ITS went down some problematic paths, but their initial trajectory was far more honest about the problems we face as a species and a planet in peril than anything you have to offer. you have spent too much time in a college town living a middle class existence to have anything relevant to say beyond providing examples of how ruinous it has all gotten. stick to that. as for me, i am tuning out.

Winter Nevermore

I agree that JZ is pretty disappointing in many ways but you lost me with the twitter style celebrity takedown.

“stay in your lane or shut the fuck up. maybe its time to wrap it up?”
“ i fear you are just another domesticated human hoping to convince people of an ideology”
“you have spent too much time in a college town living a middle class existence to have anything relevant to say”

we looked for your email jz, and couldn't find one from you.
you could always post your topic of the week idea here (under content>add content) and we're extremely likely to publish it.

note to his fans: a totw from jz will be going up on 1/7/24.

what's hilarious here is john goes on about not knowing what post-left anarchy is and someone in the comments for his show posted Bob Black's Notes on "Post-Left Anarchism." and i am reminded that Bob is a good writer.

to me the problem these days with saying one is anti (rather than post) -left is the almost guaranteed misunderstanding that what one really means is "on the right."

on the other hand, regular old leftists (non anarchists) recently made this rightward shift by calling themselves post-left leftists and then abandoning all pretense to the left. by which i mean post left is also confusing to the uninitiated.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/bob-black-notes-on-post-left-ana...

Another poster here, yeah, and what was so annoying was how the old left were primarily the ones who pursued a campaign of denouncing Bob Black as a snitch ( a capitalist criminal code of ethics that they felt applied to anarchists) for calling cops concerning a manic opium addict and dealer threatening to kill him.

i said Bob was a good writer. i did not say he was a decent person. like most of us he is a mixed bag. and technically he is a snitch, but sure there were circumstances as well.

Anarchists can snitch and do all the time. Every day. Bob can call himself whatever he wants, doesn't mean he's not a snitch.

"I wouldn't have done it normally of course, but ----"

Thank you for believing mine!

Bob Black (pig ffffucker and mixed back of nuts)

No worries, I'm a machiavellian anarch who disregards the morals and the ethics determined by any authoritarian code of rules which try to tell me what to do regarding my instinctual tendency to self-preservation. You can all obey a leader if you want, but I act alone in an appropriately anarchistic way!

ofc the immorality of snitching to the cops applies to anarchists, Bob Black isn't above that lol. its not a "leftist" campaign - just the most basic and minimal anarchist principles

Anarchists are amoral brah, you know, no gods, no religious rules on conduct etc, every anarch knows this.

this misunderstanding of anti-left anarchists usually comes from people who have not challenged their leftist programing and dogma. so now any time an anti-left anarchist questions or critiques things like identity or masks and vaccines, for instance, or read certain authors, or prioritize the individual over the collective, they are too often called right-wing, fascist-adjacent, or even pro-trump. post-left is not enough!

that's a nice self-serving comment and all, but takes no responsibility for presentation. critiquing identity, masks, vaccines, reading certain authors, etc is all fine, but HOW those things are critiqued, whether the valid points from the author are explained... how much "anti-lefters" are indistinguishable through jargon, talking points, etc, from the new left...
if you sound like a duck and sound is all online has to go by, then don't blame people for thinking your a duck

oh, come on now, plenty have gone into vast details on all of this and are almost always responded to by the cheap and dishonest accusations of being right-wing.

Socialism State Corporatism (leftwing) + Nationalism (State Authority) = Hitler Nazism (rightwing)
Religious Authority + Nationalism (State Authority) + capitalism = Netanyahu Fascist (rightwing)
Neo-liberal capitalism + patriotic consumerism + evangelism + Muhrica = Trump (Populism centrist)
Primitive communist indigenous (leftwing) + animist religious authority + tribal council = Utopian centrist populism.

Non-State geographical region (neutral)+ bartering and sharing + non-religious + no authority = Anarchist Paradise (unique and neutral)

Land purchased for primitivixt commune (leftist-capitalist)+ electric generator and internet (industrial capitalism)+ Academic leader/guru ( leftwing cult/dictatorship = JZ (civilized intellectual savage)

stupid+moronic+internet connection=most anarchists today

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