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that's what Gelderloos mentioned (in that conference i'm now spamming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZN2if_uy5g) as "ethnic thinking", which along with "messianic thinking" are traps that even if a state is abolished it can easily lead to (and has led to in the past) another state formation

i also read "against his-tory, against leviathan" yesterday, and could see a lot of what he talked about in there too.