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Why every time there is an article written by or commented on by Ria there is a brigade of low value vegantroll comments, usually seeking to inflame some battle of the sexes and tying it into veganism?

I have been vegan for over 15 years. For most of this time my veganism has been contingent, based on my context. Starting from my own body (I haven't had a problem with friends incorporating animal derived things into their diet due to health problems), it has worked for me health and well being wise. From there, socially, it has been a glue, for better or for worse, but again context! And from there I live in urban areas, and thus, to me, the key point to all of this as I see it: I live in civilization -- civilization exists. (I won't get into how it exists in our heads here, but that would be a good part of this discussion as well). If in my lifetime civilization collapses and I am able to build a closer relationship with the earth unfettered by interruption, from being clawed back by civilization, I will likely stop being vegan. What I have always been against, is slaughterhouses, battery animals wading in their own shit, primates having their bodies torn apart while they are strapped down alive and conscious, human domination over other living things (I would include domestication and most animal husbandry I have seen in this domination). I don't see being part of a complex web of life that includes eating animals as any of that litany of horrors. And why is the focus always on hunting? Is it because it fits this "man the hunter" criticism the vegano-primtivists are trying to lodge? Is, for example, gathering mussels predation? A source of patriarchy etc? (I said MUSSELS not gathering MUSCLES! jk). The places I feel connection to, the indigenous people there did, since time immemorial, and DO NOW eat outside of what the civilized call the Plant Kingdom.

As a green/anti-civ anarchist vegan I have been privy to the post-vegan arguments for a long time now and I agree with most of them. Is there space for such things? Is there more than one way to be a vegan, more than one way to be a primitivist? Is there more than one way to be an anarchist? Sometimes it feels like people think there is only one way to do or be X...and then you know they are usually barking up a tree of ideology. Going back in the archeological record to find the pure non-predator humans or pre-humans begins to seem like a strange obsession to me, building on JZ and KT's work (and of course the shoulders those two have already stood on). It seems to me like an effort to shoehorn veganism into primitivist ideology and convince others of this Truth. Why? because you can point to one truth among many looking back into history and it makes sense with your understanding of the world?

Without civilization I hope (big hope!) to shed the ideology of veganism as much as I would hope that I can relate to all beings around me, human and non, with less mediation.

I could say more but have to run now.