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Let's look at it this way... if you're against civilization, how can you also be for science and reason, up against the sheer retarded bigotry of flat-earthers and bleach-vaxxers? I mean they are redefining the ideological foundations of a civilizational collapse!

Personally I at least am admitting for being against any civilization or any science and reason... just not the one pushed forward by the same old capitalist fools who only wanna get their nice upscale mansions and yachts. Controlled fire, all the way!