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I'm just talking about being broke as fuck in various rural setting after getting forced out of the urban centers. people would attempt to do intentional land projects as an escape hatch from at least some of the wage slave grind and I would pass through or visit or try and make a go of it and long story short, utopia isn't just over the horizon beyond the edge of the city. you can certainly find an oasis here and there but it's got a different set of limitations that seem comparable to the limits of the city, imo.