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OK: It's hard to know what to do with these two. They are probably the worst podcast since silly willy gilly did one a few years ago. I'm pretty sure one of the hosts talks about not even reading the book in this episode. They are bad faith in every critique. The entire podcast is built upon a false premise of what Desert is, which makes the entire podcast an attack of a straw man. These 2 fucking morons don't even realize that the post-left exists. They think every anarchist is a leftist...which can you have an anarchist podcast without even being aware that other people are out there with different ideas. They are fucking jargon monsters and agree monsters. At one point one of them says the lame build the new world shell of the old cliche and the dude laughs at the jargon cliche and then realizes the other person was serious and he just agrees w her because he is a "good man." If these idiots had anyone they dislike on their podcast for even 20 minutes their lives would be ruined. Any nihilist, anti-civ, or post-left human who has engaged in critical thought over anarchy would smash them. I fucking hate this podcast, it's super annoying that they feel they should be putting this out there. Its complete trash and I say this as someone who doesn't even like Desert! I'm probably the only one of my friends who doesn't like it, but it's not for the same reasons as these two idiotic podcasters. If they wrote their critiques as a high school paper for an english or poli sci class they would fucking fail because they have zero reading comprehesion. These two religious zealots for revolution and being good and protest and mutual aid and solidarity and every other margarine word jargon bullshit that is so pervasive in "anarchy" somehow manage to say that Desert is religious. Fucking hold up a mirror for five seconds to yourselves, for fucks sake...The rage at this podcast is strong. Channel Zero is a worthless shit show of fucking trash. This podcast and the fucking moron who does the main podcast w Doug who is obsessed with CSpan combined with the Coffee for Comrades shit which is basically marxist good man dog IGD is "anarchy" for people who don't want to be challenged on anything but their privilege. These morons are supposedly anarchists but can't stop GROUPTHINKING. It's a problem more pervasive than just the left tho, that shitty egoist podcast recently that talked about leftism was the same, they all fucking agree agree agree, they have no ability to have constructive disagreement and dialogue. Those idiots went to the study group in the bay too, you would think they would have learned! Fuck it all, anarchy is trash, 99.99999% of it is group think unoriginal and uninspired trash