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This discussion of desert was much better than the other recently posted doomer v bloomer podcast but there were some things that were off about it. It seemed to forget about the points it made earlier, in that the text doesn't promote any kind of solution and expresses the impossibility of such a project given the state of the world. But by the end this was forgotten and it shifted into how we must fight capitalism, and how this is the most important thing, for some reason that I missed.