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No I think like Willem Van Spronsen while there can be a conversation about how nothing we do is "effective" I think that can be kept separate from understanding this is people lashing out against what they can. And whether or not we think it's misguided personally I think it's kind of lame to be overly critical of them. Especially because of how often these actions are denounced and hidden, such as Lanzas connection to anarchism.