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it turns out that there's at least two very fundamentally different "freedom" discourses that often don't even realize they're not talking about the same shit at ALLLL ... cuz when the stakes are low, they use similar language and don't notice that they arrive at similar conclusions for opposite reasons.

there's those of us who think along the lines of injury-to-one-is-to-all and there's ... the other guys.
shrugging like atlas, you might say!