A fangirl is someone - typically but not exclusively female - who gets hyped out of their mind about a particular person, group, activity, or interest. We're talking full-on, unfiltered passion: shouting from the rooftops about their favorite band, binge-watching a TV series until sunrise, or obsessively collecting everything tied to a niche hobby.
So... have there ever been fangirls for anarchy? Are there any now? And, are you one?
There was a moment - back when "radical cheerleading" hit the scene - where it felt like anarchists (often anarcha-feminists) were channeling that fangirl energy. Sure, it was a little tongue-in-cheek, but let’s be real: there was something genuine underneath all the chants and pom-poms. It was hype. It was joy. It was collective enthusiasm spilling into the streets. But outside of that? I'm struggling to think of other examples that fit. Distros, maybe? Like, at their best, they’re at least promoting other anarchists' ideas. But let’s be honest: the vibe there isn’t exactly screaming “fanatical excitement.” It’s more aloof intellectual meets chill indifference. And that? Is. Not. Fun.
Why does anarchist culture seem allergic to hype? Is it about not looking “uncool”? Or is there something baked into the whole anti-authoritarian thing that makes us hesitant to go all-in on celebrating other people’s work?
Would it be a bad thing to have more anarchist fangirls (or fanbois, or whatever)? Would it make our spaces livelier, more connected, less cynical? Are your friends the ones hyping up projects or playing it cool in the corner? And what do you learn from being enthusiastic vs. detached?
Maybe it’s time we rethink what enthusiasm means in our communities. Because let’s face it - what’s cooler than unapologetically stanning freedom?
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We need fangirls for
anon (not verified) Mon, 12/02/2024 - 07:16
We need fangirls for propaganda by the deed and hating libs
"what’s cooler than
anon (not verified) Mon, 12/02/2024 - 08:27
"what’s cooler than unapologetically stanning freedom?"
Not deleting entire conversations about Anews Salad Bar drama like egotistical tyrannical salad bar managers?
fangirls sneeze on your salad
anon (not verified) Mon, 12/02/2024 - 08:40
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fangirls sneeze on your salad, because autonomy
What gets called anarchism in
anon (not verified) Mon, 12/02/2024 - 08:40
What gets called anarchism in the U.S. is a subculture like any other subculture. And that's all it is.
Yep, it is a wholly owned
anon (not verified) Mon, 12/02/2024 - 08:51
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Yep, it is a wholly owned subsidiary of consumer society.
dya wanna elaborate on what's
anon (not verified) Mon, 12/02/2024 - 11:40
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dya wanna elaborate on what's wrong with being a subculture, in your view?
Not the person you replied to
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 03:37
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But here are some elaborations on the subject anyway.
Subcultures & Political Containment in European Colonising States
https://types.mataroa.blog/blog/subcultural/
A Discussion on Subculture, Organization, and Race in the Anarchist Space
https://orcaphilly.noblogs.org/events/event/a-discussion-on-subculture-…
>our strategy
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 06:38
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>our strategy
>mass revolutionary movement
>especifismo
>repressed peoples
what is this leftist copypasta? are you on this site to proselytize? this is like the housing unionizers i've met who call themselves anarchists and then gatekeep and hierarchically "organize" a bunch of sheepish lonely introverts over hot words like "accountability" "mass movement" "mutual aid" while sitting back and taking their salaries directly from their rich liberal sponsors.
it seems like you might not realize why all this bullshit seems so contradictory? and yeah, the strawman descriptions of the scenes in your linked articles would be enough to push me away too; but not for the leftists' reasons. most of the anarchist gatherings i've been around have kids running around doing whatever--except the 20yo suburban groups where no one has kids. the leftist idea of separating kids out so that "adults" can have a "serious discussion" is where the bullshit comes in. likewise the idea that other people need your input to their strategy. likewise the idea that working people are just waiting for the signal to be a revolutionary subject. imo we don't need more talks between liberals and anarchists, let alone leftists and anarchists or leftists and liberals. imo anarchists would do well to get MORE separation from the world of electoralism, commerce, jobs, property, because the divergence from mainstream norms that i have witnessed has never been large enough to pleasantly surprise me. any questions?
this is why moderation kills anews
There are many different
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 08:13
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There are many different takes in the various compiled links. Which specific ones are you rejecting here?
the premise of building
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 09:10
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the premise of building strength thru organizing, the premise of coordinating with people with very different goals, the premise that "more inclusive" venues are not also subcultural, the premise of mass popular revolution, the (colonized af) premise that intentional choices can lead to desirable outcomes, the premise that reforms are desirable outcomes...
Still unclear
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 13:48
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Let me try again. These premises aren't common across all of the articles/zines linked in the comment this thread is from. Some of them reject some of these premises, I think, given the fact that the texts make different & contradictory recommendations/criticisms. So, which specific articles are you objecting to?
i don't enjoy talking with
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 13:56
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i don't enjoy talking with you. either you're being obtuse on purpose or our thinking styles don't jive. to my mind i have started my positions fairly clearly. the resources you shared confirmed my suspicions that critiques of subculture are predominantly made by ancom types who believe that reforms and consensus decisions etc are valuable. they can't see the problems inherent to bureaucratized organizing or even the use of rules and fixed structures. i wish you would just speak clearly instead of acting like an unbiased arbiter of knowledge. these things are highly politically charged.
I guess our thinking styles
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 14:10
In reply to i don't enjoy talking with by anon (not verified)
I guess our thinking styles don't jive, because I'm trying to speak clearly. It's not your positions that are unclear to me, but the relations between your positions & the stuff in the links, nor am I (yet) convinced that these points are "predominantly made by ancom types who believe that reforms and consensus decisions etc are valuable" (though that's possible) or that "they can't see the problems inherent to bureaucratized organizing or even the use of rules and fixed structures." (though I think this is true of some of them).
look, i just crawled out from
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 14:14
In reply to I guess our thinking styles by anon (not verified)
look, i just crawled out from under a rock and realized that not only are there MLs calling themselves anarchists, but in fact in many venues they get the most airtime and have the hegemonic definition of "anarchy." so i'm a little raw, sorry.
This has been going on for
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 15:11
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This has been going on for years. Occupy, Ferguson, the Pipeline encampments, Stop Cop City, etc. Anywhere from 85-97% of "US anarchism" is marxist, green, or reactionary/conservative, which are all different manifestations of Christian priest-parishioner morality.
explain what you mean by
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 16:30
In reply to This has been going on for by anon (not verified)
explain what you mean by green here bc i am aware of several different types of tendencies eg anti civ/prim (evasion strategy), anti civ/prim (insurrection strategy), anti civ/prim (working class copium strategy), ELF/ALF vegan, train kids, anti logging campaigns etc.
feel free to include tiqqun in your assessment if you feel the need.
"Anywhere from 85-97% of "
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 16:43
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"Anywhere from 85-97% of "
I'M a staTiSTicS enTHUsiAst! Trust my kewl maths!
i'm a verbs enthusiast, so
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 16:49
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i'm a verbs enthusiast, so shaddup
No u
lumpy (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 18:03
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No u
im upset because i love plato and am a devout catholic
lawl glad you liked yer ma's
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 19:30
In reply to No u by lumpy (not verified)
lawl glad you liked yer ma's boarding school experience buddy
... why the fuck ..? plato?
actual lumpy (not verified) Mon, 12/09/2024 - 15:51
In reply to No u by lumpy (not verified)
... why the fuck ..? plato? don't even know what this troll was trying to do
Hums.. no, there's definitely
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 09:49
In reply to >our strategy by anon (not verified)
Hums.. no, there's definitely convos and subjects that children don't *need* to be exposed to, and are unsuitable for them. Teenagers, maybe. Separation of children and adults -that is always relative- in some aspects of daily life is ubiquitous in human societies across history, and the rites of passage stands as evidence. Yes... in "uncivilized" tribal societies.
Furthermore I don't see why you shoe-horned that aspect in the discussion?
contrasting professional
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 11:45
In reply to Hums.. no, there's definitely by anon (not verified)
contrasting professional-oriented leftist organizing, focused on meeting agendas and democratically determined success metrics
with friends and family oriented autonomous, affinity group interaction, self conscious of the fact that the people here will make their own choices and never have to enact any formal decisions nor agree with each other's choices
depending on which of these is your forte, experiencing the other will make it clear that they are vastly different models
do you see the difference
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 12:27
In reply to Hums.. no, there's definitely by anon (not verified)
do you see the difference between "formally separating kids from meetings and meet ups is a problem" what i said, and "kids should be forced to attend all events" which is what it seems you answered...?
also, did i say "anarchy is defined as living how traditional preindustrial peoples lived"?
They seem to have invented
anon (not verified) Sun, 12/08/2024 - 13:23
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They seem to have invented this cool new subculture where you assassinate CEOs and in the process beome a national hero! I think you are talking out of your whiney ass about your delusional organized anarchism pipe-dream and getting mad cos young USians want nothing to do with your tired workerist nonsense!
Shut up, dweeb. It's ALWAYS
anon (not verified) Sun, 12/08/2024 - 14:27
In reply to They seem to have invented by anon (not verified)
Shut up, dweeb. It's ALWAYS been cool to assassinate CEOs.
Reads like Zoomer rebranding
anon (not verified) Mon, 12/02/2024 - 10:36
Reads like Zoomer rebranding for "cheerleaders"... I don't get the cause for it, tho, as "cheerleading" is already a meaningful expression and the term has got nothing sexist or anything, while "fangirl" is gendered.
Communities....
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 05:40
don't exist so why use the descriptor in the piece? Community is mainstream lingo creating synthetic togetherness when really, it's individuals and all that goes with it. There's no community heartbeat. My heart stops and that's it FOR ME. Anarchists 101: there is no such thing as community.
"Community is mainstream
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 07:24
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"Community is mainstream lingo creating synthetic togetherness"
Not even... Normies use it just to refer to some inhabited space of sorts, or a milieu. They'll call a suburb a "community", where the 'burbs by far the most artificially atomized environment. Mainstream language is horseshit authoritarian and anarchists got every reason to *not* keep it alive.
wut? i can't hear or
anon (not verified) Tue, 12/03/2024 - 07:31
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wut? i can't hear or understand you, flubadubaroodoo give it to me in the language of love
"What is love?"
anon (not verified) Sat, 12/07/2024 - 14:37
In reply to wut? i can't hear or by anon (not verified)
Surely not something you find in a comment section, darliiiing! Tho I'd love to, maybe.
"What is this thing called
anon (not verified) Sun, 12/08/2024 - 05:36
In reply to "What is love?" by anon (not verified)
"What is this thing called love?" Says dude to gf. *points to large dildo under pillow*
Love the caption photo here:
anon (not verified) Sat, 12/07/2024 - 12:31
Love the caption photo here: weenies dramatizing their identity as weenies...
> caption photo
anon (not verified) Sat, 12/07/2024 - 12:48
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> caption photo
How do you do fellow, kids?
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