In the wake of another election - once again sold to the voting public as the choice between upholding democracy or hastening the collapse into fascism - I am disappointed but unsurprised to see anarchists treading the well-worn ground of speaking to disillusioned, frightened voters in their moment of fear. Anarchists promise that conversion and adherence to some easy-to-digest version of our ideology will bring about the world they hoped to vote into existence - and grant them some greater autonomy for self-advocacy in the process. People hurry to publish electoral post-mortems that establish our (non-)party line and their solutions to preparing oneself for the catastrophe that looms just beyond the changing of the calendar year. These solutions are unsurprisingly pretty much what they usually advocate - arming oneself to counter the emboldened fascists, organizing into militant formations to fight class war, building newer and wider mutual aid networks, gathering together with your community through acts of care, finding each other, etc - all now with the haphazard urgency that the approaching threat represents a dire new paradigm that will replace the status quo that we found intolerable mere weeks ago. Further problematizing this, 'community' and defending it against threats has been utilized in almost equal or greater measure in right wing political tradition. Left-liberal 'community organizers' are an equally established tradition and some, at least, are not simply trying to make a career in the Democratic Party. Is there a value in attempting a radical appeal to community? Should we at least ask what community is before doing so?
Monsieur Dupont (choose whichever half appeals to you still) spoke about pro-revolutionaries being unable to escape the "consciousness raising" phase of their social movements. I am struck by the anxiety of anticipating the milieu's sad return to the big tent, the dilution of our projects to accommodate fresh new faces with the same fresh new ideas, the tides of the movement awash in enthusiasm. We often decry the vampiric opportunism of socialist parties and progressive campaigns that feed upon the energy of the newly-radicalized masses, but is that a rejection of their methods or simply envy that their ground-game - with its flash and pomp and clean-cut answers - outpaces the typically-slow and socratic acculturation of our own tendencies to replenish ourselves? Have we given into this jealousy by spending our time evangelizing in the marketplace of soothsayers, attempting to draw in the seekers by rephrasing our destructive desires to their most benign, palatable and minimalistic gestures of refusal? Is there a point in which our anti-politics - the militant refusal of the compartmentalization of daily life into "politics" - sheds its militant form and becomes simply the politicization of the mundane acts in service of strengthening the abstractions that form our society?
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If you’re talking about the
anon (not verified) Sun, 11/24/2024 - 14:36
If you’re talking about the recent crimethinc and IGD pieces (I’m sure there are other examples of the same genre or writing and activity) I agree that it’s very cringey but not really any more so than what they are doing the other 99% of the time. It reflects how many anarchists do politics in much the same shallow, spectacular/subjective/“cultural” way that most political types do any kind of politics in the US, shaped by mass culture and middle class backgrounds. It revolves around attracting people through emotional appeals, idealistic rhetoric, voluntarist demonstrations of goodwill (“solidarity and/or charity”) and then keeping people interested via whatever crumbs of “community” can be doled out in the context of trying to simulate little islands of utopia inside this sick world. It’s no surprise that given the relatively extreme circumstances that anarchists especially face (conflict with the state, each other, and society in general, not to mention high if unwritten standards of personal ethics) the new recruits tend to strike shallow roots and leave within a few years, while the biggest wingnuts hang on to become the pillars of the sad revolving door activist scenes they preach from.
It’s interesting you bring up Dupont; whatever you have to say about leftist vampirism, to play devils advocate, at least they have a goal. Dupont are not just anarchists but also communists, even if nihilist ones, and they have clearly spent a lot of time in the trenches as well as in their armchairs studying and refining their thoughts. Granted those thoughts tended toward the esoteric after a while and I couldn’t really follow it. But while there are big issues with prescriptivism/prefiguration, at this point I have a lot more respect and a lot more time for hearing someone out who has actually put in the time and effort to understand what they’re trying to do, how to get somewhere, and what the whole fucking point actually is, than the bookfair set and activist busybodies who again, are usually just shouting about whatever’s in the news to try to attract fresh meat to their “radical communities” because they have nothing else to offer. It’s sort of incredible to me how many so called radical extremists are just doing a more extreme version of the liberal who runs around trying to slap band aids on everything so they can feel like a good person and show their face at the book club or cafe or whatever. Or again, it would be incredible if not for the fact that sort of shallow bullshit is exactly how American culture has prepared us to approach politics, and the many material as well as spectacular reasons that channel people into the mindset of activist urgency.
Le Garcon Dupont is a social
anon (not verified) Sun, 11/24/2024 - 15:47
In reply to If you’re talking about the by anon (not verified)
Le Garcon Dupont is a social democrat now, and the other one who wrote "Species Being" is apparently too sympathetic to the "reactionary elements of the working class" and a "red-brown". They attack each other on Twitter non-stop these days. It's quite hilarious...
Fun fact, "Z" was a "protege" of Le Garcon Dupont. I wonder if that episode contributed to his current rejection of revolutionary politics in favor of social activism and electoralism?
Who is Z?
anon (not verified) Sun, 11/24/2024 - 16:48
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Who is Z?
Like I said I haven’t really been aware of Dupont for many years. I remember (vaguely) reading Nihilist Communism not long after it came out and was an influence on my coming to consider myself a communist as well / moving away from what I now see as the basically incoherent, “antipolitical/anticiv/insurrectionist” type ideas I previously had, towards conceiving of moving towards some positive vision - however remote, and informed by actual historical study of radical movements - and not just the most “radical” possible reaction to our present existence (of which I think of activism as the shortest circuit) and other idealistic rhetoric being spouted by the edgiest anarchists of our time. As for what that book was actually about, honestly I couldn’t tell you much right now. I definitely tuned out when one of them started writing lots of blog posts about the Bible (which I even agree is an interesting book for many reasons, but I have little to no idea what he was trying to say about it!)
i hear that part about the
lumpy (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 08:46
In reply to Who is Z? by anon (not verified)
i hear that part about the "incoherency", had a very similar journey myself. i might trouble it a bit by adding that any "position" that defines itself as an antithesis is uhm ... well it's kind of weird to expect insurrectionary anarchism to have well defined end goals, isn't it? if we know the history and we've moved in those circles, we all know the "plan" gets a bit hazy towards the end haha
so that said, i don't really expect my anticiv/insurrectionary position to function as a longterm constructive strategy, i have other ideas for that: tending towards illegalism and very small c primitive communism, depending on if i'm in the city or the boonies.
z is a sad weirdo with a motormouth who used to harass people associated with @news
Right, I didn’t expect there
anon (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 10:32
In reply to i hear that part about the by lumpy (not verified)
Right, I didn’t expect there to be goals, I was just being an edgy young egoist punk weirdo myself. “Destroy Everything!!!” It just sucks when being like that mainly destroys your own life and then you have to think Damn I wish I’d been more pro social and surrounded myself with people who were too
Obviously you missed the part
anon (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 10:36
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Obviously you missed the part where we simply do not stop destroying until we win or die. Nobody likes a quitter.
yeah, the advice i'd give my
lumpy (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 11:06
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yeah, the advice i'd give my younger self would be something like...
sort for the pro-social-but-still-righteously-pissed-off-ones
also, the ones who actually read and have relationships and projects that last more than a few months haha
John Zerzan was right. Cynic
anon (not verified) Sun, 11/24/2024 - 22:04
John Zerzan was right. Cynic of surrender, the lot of you.
You've taken anarchist anti-politics, swallowed it whole, processed it with much churning indigestion, and have shat it back into the world in an entirely unrecognizable turd-form. You've somehow managed to turn the 'militant refusal of the compartmentalization of daily life into "politics"' into a refusal of daily life that involves doing anything beyond your smelly armchairs. When did the ideas of mutual aid and acts of care fall out of your brains and become a topic of seething ressentiment?
NooOOOO my heckin'
anon (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 03:49
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NooOOOO my heckin' ressentimentos!!!!!!
maybe, but jz is toast at
anon (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 11:45
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maybe, but jz is toast at this point. he seems like AP-AI
and talk about "arm chair" he lives a suburban life in a college town.
I thought using phones,
anon (not verified) Tue, 11/26/2024 - 13:55
In reply to maybe, but jz is toast at by anon (not verified)
I thought using phones, electricity, washing your ass, and living a decidedly un-feral life were all things that didn't negate the principles of AP?
electoral disillusionment is
anon (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 06:20
electoral disillusionment is a precipitating factor in rising social anger. because the spontaneous upsurge of millions of people is an essential component (but not the only component) of the insurrection, it makes sense to relate to widespread ideas about the world when they are in a period of fluctuation. this is actually quite basic, and no amount of nihilo-liberal "everyday life"-ism can conceal the historically-justified need to communicate with disenfranchised people. hidden just beneath the TOTW is actually contempt for everyday people, refusal to engage with their theories and concerns, and resentement toward anyone who is attempting to do so. perhaps the destruction of capitalism will emerge as a consequence of its own contradictions, or, better yet, of the quirky relationships and ideas of very small groups living in a handful of coastal cities. but i dont think so.
I'm thinking of forming The
anon (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 07:02
I'm thinking of forming The Seething With Ressentiment Party, basically, a dictatorship of common folk who follow leaders and can't think for themselves. Any thoughts?
Well, they're already on
anon (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 07:36
In reply to I'm thinking of forming The by anon (not verified)
Well, they're already on their way to the White House. But since you might be seething ressentiment about their invitation-only orgies in a Palm Beach palace perhaps you can also
1- shave, get a stupid conservative haircut and a lame suit & tie. No need to bathe tho.
2- join the GOP to seethe, seethe, seethe from within 'til they get overflooded with ressentiment so much they can't run anything anymore.
3- ???
4- Anarchy!
I'm not talking about the
anon (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 21:39
In reply to Well, they're already on by anon (not verified)
I'm not talking about the petty jealousy of the materialistic Statist who wants to drive a Porsche, oOh nooOooo, I'm talking about the seething ressentiment of the feeble-minded sheep who judge people by their status, who need leaders to tell them to believe in a god they've never seen, who are sooOoo ignorant and shallow that their minds resemble rusty cogs grinding away at myths and spooks. I was the poster who originally coined the term " Seething Ressentiment". DON'T YOU TELL ME HOW AND WHEN I CAN SARCASTICALLY USE IT IN A SATIRICAL SENTENCE!!
AND UUUU DON'T TELL ME WHAT
anon (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 22:08
In reply to I'm not talking about the by anon (not verified)
AND UUUU DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO, YOU PEASANT!
i think you are an idiot with
anon (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 11:41
In reply to I'm thinking of forming The by anon (not verified)
i think you are an idiot with stupid ideas
Gotem
anon (not verified) Mon, 11/25/2024 - 12:11
In reply to i think you are an idiot with by anon (not verified)
Gotem
"I am struck by the anxiety
anon (not verified) Wed, 11/27/2024 - 18:30
"I am struck by the anxiety of anticipating the milieu's sad return to the big tent"
There's already a big tent... It's Palestine. You hardly can escape it if you're anywhere west or south of Germany, not at least without being labeled & profiled as a "Zionist" or traitor. That monarchist/nationalist flag is one hell of a drug.
Haha
Stormy the Dar… (not verified) Sat, 11/30/2024 - 12:42
Meet the Old Boss, same as the Old Boss. Trumpster just appointed a Jewish gangster as ambassador to France, home of unwashed postmodernist "philosophers." The convicted felons son bangs The Donald's shiksa daughter in the name of Hashem. Mostly swamp critters in the incoming admin. Drill baby drill! What a sick sack of ass is politics.
Any real anarchist hates all politics. Just like we hate government. I see myself as a modern mountain man. They lived off the land and married indigenous women. It's in my blood as descendant of original colonial settlers and also Native American. We must return to a wild state as much as we can.
Except -
"The land" is now Da Ruins. Reseed the scorched earth of industrial society with our sex, our violence, with righteous anger not agriculture. Fuck the mega machine. Sabotage and burn. Fuck politics and isms. Just LIVE.
Like our brute ancestors on the veldt ....
^^^
anon (not verified) Sat, 11/30/2024 - 13:33
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just absolutely rock hard while typing this.
"We often decry the vampiric
lumpy (not verified) Sat, 11/30/2024 - 13:52
"We often decry the vampiric opportunism of socialist parties and progressive campaigns that feed upon the energy of the newly-radicalized masses, but is that a rejection of their methods or simply envy that their ground-game [...]"
the writer of the prompt seems to assume the answer is obviously the latter... that's incredibly damning? wtf ... if we're anarchists, it would be the method that we reject. if we're failed authoritarians and bitter about it, we would be envious.
sort yourselves accordingly and if you're just jealous of the big tent, mainstream left's efficacy at mass manipulation ... what a strange time in history to feel any envy of those toxic, lobotomized losers ...
Towards the end, we can see the inherent theoretical weakness of The Anti-Politics Canard
I don't use this "anti-politics" in my analysis, so i'm not forced through bad reasoning to constantly wonder if i'm sufficiently "escaping" or "negating" politics with everything i do. instead, i see politics in everything, everywhere, all the time, with special emphasis on group decision making as it scales up. you can't escape it except maybe by becoming a hermit, which is fine. don't blame ya, if so!
antithetical definitions can't tell you what to DO beyond opposition because how could they? they rely on the thing being opposed to define themselves, so they suck for building, dreaming, longterm strategizing, etc.
the term "anti-politics" was popularized by an anthropologist from stanford, talking about the contradictions of 90s capitalist liberalism as if people hadn't been saying these things for centuries already. it reeks of populism, it seems to be an intentional rejection of much better and older theories AND ... anarchists don't need it at all because we're the official anti-state position?!
so if anti-politics just means like, elections, then yeah, we're anti-state so therefore, obviously we wouldn't help the state legitimize itself by participating in their bullshit sham. that's a very old idea, nothing new or interesting there
and here, "anti-politics" has drifted all the way to being openly jealous of the biggest losers within that "politics"? what in the actual fuck ... what is this? who wrote this? get help. talk to smarter people. i'm sad for you. srsly...
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